Proud Boys: A Debate

Sarah Orman
3 min readOct 22, 2020

Good evening. No noise except right now.

A lot of people have been waiting —

people who have pre-existing conditions

people that have died on his watch

There’s nothing symbolic. All of the things that we’ve done. This is big stuff.

Look, hey. The fact of the matter is

God, I want to make sure. The wrong guy,

the wrong night, at the wrong time. He sends out

wishful thinking. Why should the people trust?

Wrong. Wrong. It’s so wrong.

What we trust is a scientist.

God. The same man who told you — It’s all set up.

By Easter, this would be gone away.

Miraculous, like a miracle. This is the same man.

We spoke to the scientists in charge, by the way.

Because it’s a political thing. I wear

masks when needed. When needed, I wear masks.

It matters. It matters. People want to be safe. Want to be safe.

Unless they’re stupid, they go through the laws, and that’s

what it is.

People out there need help. Close your eyes, remember:

Coming out of fields: torches, veins bulging, spewing bile, the Ku Klux Klan.

We believe in law. But look, the majority are good, honorable apples—

they have to be sorted.

Oh my Lord. Many people driving kids to soccer practice

Black and white and Hispanic in the same car

they’re being flooded, they’re being burned out

We don’t have time to do anything.

I’m willing to do anything. I want to see peace.

Well, do it, sir. Say it, do it, say it. You

have no idea about anything.

By the way, my son . . . my son . . . my son . . . like a lot of people —

he’s overtaking

he’s fixed

he’s worked

and I’m proud of him, I’m proud of my son.

I don’t think science knows. I want crystal clean water and air.

want beautiful clean air. Immaculate air, immaculate water and

whatever else that’s good. A billion trees, the

Billion Tree Project.

Every year I get the call. California’s burning, California’s burning.

But they have simply ignored. It’s all true. And here’s the deal —

they want the cows.

Not true. It’s a fraud, and it’s a shame. We don’t like them.

But what are you going to do about it, left and right?

What are you going to do?

What are you going to do about the fact that millions of people —

They’re being sold. They’re being dumped in rivers. This is a horrible thing.

This is not going to end well.

You’re wrong. You’re wrong. You know why? Because bad things

these people aren’t equipped to handle. Number one. Number two,

they cheat. They cheat. You think that’s good?

He has no idea what he’s talking about. Here’s the deal. I will accept

Gentlemen, just say that’s the end of it. Thank you.



Sarah Orman

Writer and editor in Austin, Texas. Follow me on Substack @sarahorman for twice-a-month dispatches about books and writing. More info at